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Poster: lawn_boy2812 Date: Nov 22, 2007 9:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: must have shows?

it is so hard to decide which GD shows to download and/or stream. there are too many gems. But in beginning this momentous task (im a life-long dead fan whose only recently begun to collect shows maniacally) i would appreciate the experts out there to tell me which shows on the archive stream-only or otherwise are absolute MUST HAVE essential shows for my collection. assume nothing...while i am aware
of many of cream of the crop dates, i want to know which of the "best" are really the BEST. Im blown away by almost every dead show i listen to, but the really magical ones take me to another, otherworldly level that i hope to revisit again and again...with your help...

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 22, 2007 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

you said not to over look the obvious so this is pretty much as obvious as it gets. Some of these you won't find for streaming because of official releases -

Oct 68
Feb 69 Fillmore run
May 70
Sept 70 acoustic sets
April 71 Closing of Fillmore East run
Europe 72
8-27-72, over rated? perhaps but deservedly legendary
Nov 73 Winterland
just about anything June 74
9-28-75
June 76
may 77
Red Rocks 78

ok I just ran out of gas. These are by no means all but I think just about everyone would agree they are must haves which is what you asked

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 23, 2007 8:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?!

http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/cream-puff-war


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Poster: gphishmon Date: Nov 23, 2007 5:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

1991 is a very good year but 1990 blows its doors off:

3/29/90
7/12/90
7/18/90
9/18/90
9/20/90
10/20/90
12/31/90

all killer shows and most better than anything played in 1991. To me, Jerry sounded a bit tired on many nights that year - already on the decline. That said, 3/17/91, 6/14/91, 9/10/91, 9/13/91, and 9/20/91 are all good shows.

But the best stuff, if you like long exploratory jams, is 72-74, no question.

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Poster: northstar dead Date: Nov 23, 2007 7:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

I agree with your 90 list, but I would have to add 7-16-90 to that list

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Poster: tank_tuba Date: Nov 22, 2007 10:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

Nothing quite like a '73 Playin in the Band. This is a nice run of shows from one of my favorite years.

http://www.gdfiles.com/blahg/2007/11/17/flac-grateful-dead-111173-sbd-winterland-arena-san-francisco-upgrade/

http://www.gdfiles.com/blahg/2007/11/02/flac-grateful-dead-111473-sbd-san-diego-sports-arena-san-diego-ca/

http://www.gdfiles.com/blahg/2007/11/21/flac-grateful-dead-111773-sbd-pauley-pavillion-ucla-los-angeles-ca/

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.

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Poster: Tito&Smokey Date: Nov 22, 2007 10:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

every one shits themselves about 73-74.....and they are Great,but if tell me i could only listen to 73 or 91 for the rest of my life,take my pick,im taking 91.Sorry,it is what it is.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 22, 2007 2:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

and that tells me all i need to know.

you can have liberty and pushing spinners out of the way

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Nov 23, 2007 1:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

Sure does, BlueDevil. That pointedly describes a TOUCH HEAD to the tee...

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Poster: Tito&Smokey Date: Nov 23, 2007 6:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

If im a"Touchhead"so be.i started going to shows in 87,and i love Touch of gray.Whats your point asshole?

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Nov 23, 2007 8:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

CHINGA USTED, PUERKO

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Poster: Tito&Smokey Date: Nov 22, 2007 4:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

I love Liberty..one of my favorite songs actually

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Nov 22, 2007 10:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

boy, you have almost the whole collection of the dead at your fingertips, friend. you can't go wrong with any show from 72-74, or 77. if you can deal with some sound issues, 68-70 will not disappoint you either. 79-81 is full of great shows as well. personally, i really don't venture much past 83, but what do i know. your gonna enjoy almost anything you can get your hands on. since july, i have acquired over 300 shows, about 230 in mp3, and 70 in lossless flac or shn format. i was overwhelmed at first, but then i started to figure out what my favorite eras were, and kind of narrowed down shows from there.

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Poster: Tito&Smokey Date: Nov 22, 2007 12:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

I dont listen to anything from 68-71.and i didnt say 74 sucked,it doesnt,its great.i just said i liked 91 better...........the best years are easily 77-79 and 87-91 in my book.im not a big fan of the early 80s at all........i really dont even listen to it..theres some great stuff in 92-93 too.......even a few from 95

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Nov 22, 2007 10:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

tito, no need to say sorry, bro. if you dig 91, so be it. i can tell you your nuts, and that 73 is supreme in all ways, but that's my opinion. who's to say who's right and wrong. a matter of taste is all.

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Poster: acetboy Date: Nov 22, 2007 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

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This post was modified by acetboy on 2008-05-29 22:37:01

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2007-11-22 19:25:55

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Poster: lawn_boy2812 Date: Nov 22, 2007 6:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

i appreciate what rh did for jerry and the dead...but i really cant get into his performances. saw him play the whole terrapin during the setbreak at an other ones show in hartford (best other ones i saw actually) and while it was cool to be there for it... we all sorta wanted it to end so the amazing musicians who made his songs famous could play them.

ps i did listen to the link, thanks, but it just doesnt do it for me

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 22, 2007 11:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

Here is a listing of "top shows" for my two favorite years, 68 & 70. The listing below provides the date of the show, and then the number of "votes" it rec'd by folks over at Deadhook (a number of which post here as well).

Here they are:

Best of 68 by Hook voters (date/# votes):

1/20 5
1/22 4
2/14 7
8/21 4
8/22 4
8/23 6
8/24 6
10/12 6
12/29 5

Best of 70 by Hook voters (date/# votes):

1/2 3
1/3 3
2/11 6
2/13 8
2/14 6
5/2 7
5/15 8
6/7 4
9/19 10
9/20 10
11/7 4
11/8 5


So, I would say you couldn't go wrong with 2-14-68, 8-22/23-68, 10-12-68, 9-19-70 or 9-20-70 for great shows from these two years.

Enjoy!

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Nov 22, 2007 10:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

lawn boy, it's tough because like everything else in the forum it's all subjective. My must have credentials are going to differ from everyone else's, so trial and error is the best way to go. Hopefully others will respond and you can choose at will. With that said, I will throw out 3-29-90 Nassua. History made as Branford sits in with the band for the first time. Not saying it's the best but I would definately say "must have" if you are a fan of the GD.

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Poster: Tito&Smokey Date: Nov 22, 2007 10:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

6-7-91........

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Poster: lawn_boy2812 Date: Nov 22, 2007 10:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

i completely understand, it is entirely subjective, but when someone tells me of a show that is a "must have" for them its reason enough for me to get my hands on it. thanks so much for ur suggestion. ive heard some of the other branford shows they are amazing (actually, according to my pops, the first dead show i attended as a toddler included mr. marsalis).

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 22, 2007 11:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

impossible to answer. I would say the peak years in term of playing quality to my ears are 69-77 and 89-91 but there's great shows from every year.

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Nov 22, 2007 4:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

"lawn_boy2812:" Welcome to the anarchy and insane realm of the Forum. You want "otherwordly(?)" No problem; you'll find it here:
http://tela.sugarmegs.org/sugaree/roberthunter2003-04-05.wma

Hunter solo-acoustic
2003-04-05 [Barrymore Theatre; Madison, WI]

...you flew to me....

If you go out There, you're welcome to drop-in anytime,
--- AshesRising



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Poster: barongsong Date: Nov 22, 2007 4:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

From the later Era here are a few that I've listened to and have blown my socks off. I'll leave the other eras to those who know much much more than myself.
1.87-9-18
2.88-7-3
2.89-4-8
3.89-7-7 This one is the super must have.
4.89-7-17,18,19
5.89-10-14,15,16
6.89-12-27&30
7.90-2-26&27
8.90-3-29
9.90-6-17
10.90-6-23
11.91-4-1
12.91-6-14
13.91-10-31
14.92-5-31
I'm sure there are a lot more but those are the ones I've listened to so can say for sure I think are Grate.

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Poster: Tito&Smokey Date: Nov 22, 2007 5:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

This is a very good list that i agree with,but wheres the 91 Garden shows?

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Poster: barongsong Date: Nov 22, 2007 6:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

I've only listened to 2 of the shows fully on this run after the fact in which both were excellent. I should probably included 91-9-26 on the list but I just got it and I'm to biased to give the show a proper review yet. I left out the dicks picks one because Dick already picked it and it's an obvious choice. Other than that I've only heard bits and pieces of the other shows if anything so I couldn't put them on the list.

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Poster: estim8edI's Date: Nov 22, 2007 12:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

as a general rule when I used collect tapes it was get any I didn't already have and if I already had it and there was a better sounding copy out there get it again. then again it was a little different then as you know, recording in real time and snailmail and such but the way I look at it now is you got all already right here ...but I would be at a loss if 4.6.82 was not available so I'd say that qualifies for me at least as a must have show.

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Poster: countmlbjam Date: Nov 22, 2007 1:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows?

5-2-70
9-21-72
11-17-73
6-23-74
1-22-78
9-2-80
10-15-83
3-28-85
3-27-88
7-7-89
6-17-91

All of these are must haves in my book. Some are officially released, but most aren't

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Poster: patourkid Date: Nov 22, 2007 4:14pm
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I'll back Tito A little on this one,I dig the 10-27-91 show (RIP Bill Graham) although by no means a favorite it it a solid show. As far as my taste about anything I can find with Jerry pickin an acoustic is a must have. And off the top of my head I have been diggin on 12-14-71 the Hill aud. Run run Rudolph,Santa's got to make it to town!!!!!

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Nov 22, 2007 7:20pm
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I'm a big 91 guy myself. That year had the most creativity and improv since God knows when. the 10-27 gig you mention is off the wall. I know others think it's a subpar year, I think it's the last great one. Honestly, I could pick 20 plus shows from this year that are outstanding.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 23, 2007 8:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: must have shows??

When you really want to let the world go by, and put yourself in a time that never ends for anyone who can go there:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd65-11-03.sbd.vernon.9044.sbeok.shnf

OK... on special occasions for friends who relate better to the "newer" GD stuff...

it's hu-hu-huge with overall solid playing throughout, and while other shows may have slightly better versions (of acoustical, esp.) or a song this one doesn't, it IS a must have show:

(May 15, 1970)

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-05-15.early-late.sbd.97.sbeok.shnf

Imagine yourself back at the Fillmore before Time magazine and CBS got wind of the hippies and the scene got flooded with Pigpen lookalikes:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd66-11-19.sbd.seff.41.sbeok.shnf

here are but a few of the archive reviews:

Reviewer: buscameby - - November 6, 2007
Subject: Quintessential early Dead

This is a must hear or have to anyone who loves early Dead.
Great recording and rare moments make for a very happy deadhead*S*.

Reviewer: Cliff Hucker - - July 21, 2007
Subject: Take my mind and leave...

Amazing Cream Puff War!

Hard to believe this is only 1966. This primal jam just goes on and on, and at times is surprisingly sophisticated! (A- 98 pts)

Reviewer: Randy I - - April 7, 2007
Subject: Good-n-Groovy
After 40 years this music stands the test of time.

Reviewer: EdDead - - May 19, 2006
Subject: The One

The Grateful Dead at their best. Cream Puff War defines the essence of their improvisational all-for-one and one-for-all credo with Garcia exploring the outer limits.
As always you can listen to Phil Lesh just for his lines alone and Pigpen really shines.
The recording has that great LIVE sound.
I guess everyone has their own tightly held belief in what the Grateful Dead may or may not be. For me this is it.

Reviewer: DeadHeadHippy90 - - May 18, 2006
Subject: Good Stuff

This is really great, it shows how good they have always been. The sound is great and they play their songs and the covers very well...

Reviewer: Darrylizer - - May 5, 2006
Subject: A show of rock and roll abandon

This is a must have show. The Dead sound like a garage punk band they're so energetic. Pigpen's rollicking organ is way up in the mix and it's cool to hear how integral he was to their early sound. Garcia and company play with bluesy abandon. A really dynamic show from the very early years of the Dead, stream it now.

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And if you want to hear the Dead playing in their own private Idaho (Rio Nido), to a very small audience:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd67-09-03.sbd.backus.17272.sbeok.shnf

(some) Reviews:

Reviewer: redwinter - - September 18, 2007
Subject: My Favorite

This has got to be the greatest unreleased Grateful Dead set even though Midnight Hour and Viola Lee have been released.
... dreamy bluesy recording. Jerry is already in transcendant from with Dancing In The Streets and Midnight Hour.
Good Morning Little Schoolgirl sounds more like a free form jam and not as tight as it would become in 68 and 69.

The fade out at the end sounds like you're waking from a daydream on the Mississippi Delta. And the dreamy Alligator, the sole original here, is to die for.


Reviewer: HagarJr - - May 18, 2007
Subject: Midnight Hour

This is the version of Midnight Hour that Phil Lesh... put on his album "Fallout from the Phil Zone".

Reviewer: Chris U. - - June 24, 2006
Subject: They never got rounder than this

Oh how I do love the sound of this recording the most plasticized analog sounds ever magnetized to tape...

certainly the number of tapes which captures this excercise in subconscious stimulation can be counted on one hand...



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